Lets all criticize Lebron... oh wait

[donniehoward]

Jordan did it first.. now Magic........


hold up a minute though.. these guys played in giant markets, fun cities where people actually wanted to go.. and one more small thing.... both had amazing teammates and coaches.

Of course Magic Johnson wouldn't have paired up with Larry and Michael.. why would he? He has only arguably the 2nd or 3rd best center of all time in Kareem abdul Jabbar and a top 10 PF of all time in James Worthy. Let's don't forget about the plethora of amazing role players like Michael Cooper, Byron Scott keep the list coming.

Jordan only played with Scottie Pippen, a top 50 player of all time and later on Dennis Rodman who is, in my opinion, a top 75 player of all time. I've never seen a team built around a superstar quite like Jordan's. He has every element he needed around him. Tough defensive players, guys who would do the dirty work, sharpshooting 3 point bombers. versatile PG's.

So sure Lebron might have damaged his legacy a bit.. but let me ask everyone a question:

Better 3 some
Lebron Wade Bosh or Magic,Kareem Worthy?

I think Magic should apologize.

[Jimbo Collins]

I disagree Donnie. I think LeBron is a quitter. I have read so many articles about how he refused to foul late in ballgames in the playoffs because he was done. He has known for a long time that he was going to Miami and quitting on the Cavs.

The Cavs were there. They were in the finals and the EC Finals. The superstar couldn't get them over the top. If was going to ever be considered the best player ever or even be mentioned in the conversation that is over now. He sold out. He ran out on his home team and city. The bigger market thing doesn't really sit with me. Especially if you think about how many games, let along titles, the Bulls won without Jordan... NONE!

Would Worthy, Cooper, Scott, Rambus or many others have as good if not for the game of Magic Johnson? Magic, Bird and Jordan all made their teammates better? Can LeBron claim that? Hell, I don't think Wade can claim that. How many rings does D' Wade have without Shaq? Bosh? Hell, he is the ultimate joke in this scheme to me. I think he is going to be the goat when things go bad. I don't see the Heat dominating the way people think they will.

Magic would have won championships in Cleveland, New Jersey, or where ever he might have played. Bird would have won championships wherever he played and so would Jordan. LeBron? I don't think he will ever win one. If so, I think one will be the max. He is a crybaby and a quitter and the ball don't lie baby!

[donniehoward]

Jordan played baseball Bulls won 55 games went to East Finals without him... what will Clevelanddo without Lebron?

Thing with Lebron is, he had to play amazing everynight for them to win. Its the reason Kobe can go 6-24 in game 7 and win a title. Lebron shot that bad against Boston in game 5 and lost by almost 30.

U put Magic on this team in Cleveland, they don't win a title. 2 years ago Lebron averaged 40-8-8 in the playoffs! what more can u do?
Also the foul thing has been blown out of proportion. down 10 with 25 seconds to go.. i mean yeah foul but its pretty pointless.

I am just saying its easy for Magic to point the finger and say that when he never experienced being on a terrible team and hell, magic got his first coach fired...........

Lebrons 2nd and 3rd best players are Jamison and Williams. thats terrible.

[Jimbo Collins]

Once again bro, I disagree. Put Magic on the Cleveland team and they can win a title. Magic, Shaq, Mo Williams and Jamison with Big Z as well. Magic makes the rest of the team better. Gets more out of Shaq than anyone ever would have and they win a title.

LeBron is a crybaby. He is a great athlete and a great player, but he is not a Magic, Jordan, Bird... he is also not on the next level down... Kobe, Wade, etc...